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West Fraser(WFG) - 2024 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
WFGWest Fraser(WFG)2024-10-24 19:54

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - West Fraser generated 62millionofadjustedEBITDAinQ32024,representinga462 million of adjusted EBITDA in Q3 2024, representing a 4% margin, impacted by a 32 million lumber export duty expense [4][6] - On a trailing 4-quarter basis, adjusted EBITDA was 630million,animprovementfrom630 million, an improvement from 561 million at year-end 2023 [5] - Cash flow from operations was 150millioninQ3,withacashbalancenetofdebtandleaseobligationsat150 million in Q3, with a cash balance net of debt and lease obligations at 463 million [9] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The lumber segment posted an adjusted EBITDA loss of 62millioninQ3,comparedtoa62 million in Q3, compared to a 51 million loss in Q2 [6] - North America EWP segment generated 121millionofadjustedEBITDAinQ3,downfrom121 million of adjusted EBITDA in Q3, down from 308 million in Q2 [7] - The Pulp & Paper segment generated 2millionofadjustedEBITDAinQ3,belowthe2 million of adjusted EBITDA in Q3, below the 9 million reported in Q2 [7] - European business adjusted EBITDA was 1millioninQ3,downfrom1 million in Q3, down from 6 million in Q2 [7] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - SYP shipments in the U.S. South are down more than 10% year-to-date from 2023, with Q3 shipments down nearly 12% versus the prior quarter [8] - The final combined rate for softwood lumber duties is approximately 11.9%, effective until the U.S. Department of Commerce finalizes AR6 [8] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company remains focused on geographic and product diversification to weather challenging lumber markets [10] - Actions taken include curtailing production at higher-cost mills and optimizing operations to improve cost structure [12] - The company expects SPF shipments to exceed previous guidance, while reiterating reduced guidance for SYP shipments [14] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management is encouraged by the stabilization of new home construction and the expectation of rate cuts, which should support demand for wood products [11] - Inflation risks are considered benign, with costs stabilizing across the supply chain [11] - The company has reduced available capacity by over 800 million board feet since 2022, which is expected to support industry balance [12] Other Important Information - The company is narrowing the guidance range for 2024 capital expenditures to 475millionto475 million to 525 million [14] - Shareholders have been rewarded through dividends and buybacks, with a focus on creating value [15] Q&A Session Summary Question: How is R&R demand trending? - Management noted slight improvement in SYP demand, largely due to supply-side adjustments [17][18] Question: Why is there not a bigger price response in SPF? - Management indicated that supply-demand balance for SPF is different from SYP, leading to more volume from SPF [19] Question: What is the outlook for CapEx next year? - Guidance for CapEx will be provided at year-end, but it is expected to be slightly lower than previous years due to project completions [20][21] Question: How much of the capacity closures in the South are permanent? - Management stated that two mills are permanently closed while two are indefinitely curtailed, with no immediate dismantling planned [34][35] Question: What is the status of the European panels business? - The European business remains slow, with profitability restoration dependent on general economic improvement [36] Question: Are customers looking to secure larger volumes for 2025? - Customers are planning for 2025, but volumes can adjust based on market conditions [39] Question: What cost-saving opportunities are being pursued in the U.S. South? - Management is focused on modernizing plants and improving productivity to enhance competitiveness [40][41] Question: What drove the change in downtime at Caribou? - Additional projects and ensuring adequate fiber supply for colder months necessitated an extended shutdown [42]