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Aemetis(AMTX) - 2024 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
AMTXAemetis(AMTX)2024-11-13 01:16

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Revenue for Q3 2024 increased to 81.4millionfrom81.4 million from 68.7 million in Q3 2023, with gross profit rising to 3.9millioncomparedto3.9 million compared to 492,000 in the previous year [5][6][8] - Operating loss improved to 3.9millioninQ32024fromanoperatinglossof3.9 million in Q3 2024 from an operating loss of 8.5 million in Q3 2023 [6] - Net loss was 17.9millionforQ32024,asignificantdeclinefromnetincomeof17.9 million for Q3 2024, a significant decline from net income of 30.7 million in Q3 2023, primarily due to the sale of investment tax credits in September 2023 [8] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Keyes plant generated 45millioninrevenuewithaproductionof15.5milliongallonsofethanol[5]TheDairyRenewableNaturalGassegmentreported45 million in revenue with a production of 15.5 million gallons of ethanol [5] - The Dairy Renewable Natural Gas segment reported 4.2 million in revenue from the sale of 85,993 MMBtus and 935,000 RINs [5] - The India Biodiesel business recognized 32.2millioninrevenue,mainlyfromsalestoIndianoilmarketingcompanies[5]MarketDataandKeyMetricsChangesThepriceofLowCarbonFuelStandard(LCFS)creditsincreasedfrom32.2 million in revenue, mainly from sales to Indian oil marketing companies [5] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The price of Low Carbon Fuel Standard (LCFS) credits increased from 44 to 74recently,withprojectionsforlate2025creditsalreadyat74 recently, with projections for late 2025 credits already at 82 [10][18] - Aemetis anticipates generating 20millioninrevenuesfromrenewablenaturalgassalesata20 million in revenues from renewable natural gas sales at a 100 average LCFS price next year, a significant increase from 3millionthisyear[11]CompanyStrategyandDevelopmentDirectionAemetisisfocusedonexpandingitsrenewablenaturalgasbusiness,aimingtoproduceover500,000MMBtusperyearbytheendof2025[11][15]Thecompanyisalsoworkingonasustainableaviationfuelandrenewabledieselplantwithacapacityof90milliongallonsperyear[30][31]Aemetisplanstoleveragepublicpolicysupportingrenewablefuels,particularlyinCalifornia,toenhanceitsmarketposition[17]ManagementsCommentsonOperatingEnvironmentandFutureOutlookManagementexpressedoptimismaboutthefutureofLCFScredits,predictingpricescouldreach3 million this year [11] Company Strategy and Development Direction - Aemetis is focused on expanding its renewable natural gas business, aiming to produce over 500,000 MMBtus per year by the end of 2025 [11][15] - The company is also working on a sustainable aviation fuel and renewable diesel plant with a capacity of 90 million gallons per year [30][31] - Aemetis plans to leverage public policy supporting renewable fuels, particularly in California, to enhance its market position [17] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about the future of LCFS credits, predicting prices could reach 220 by 2027 due to a deficit in available credits [36] - Concerns were raised regarding the timing of the 45Z production tax credit guidance from the IRS, which is crucial for the growth of the renewable natural gas business [41][19] - The company expects to see increased revenues and cash receipts from LCFS pathway approval starting in Q2 2025 [15] Other Important Information - Aemetis is finalizing the sale of investment tax credits with expected net cash proceeds of about 11.5million[14]ThecompanyhasreceivedadraftUSDAconditionalcommitmentapprovalfora11.5 million [14] - The company has received a draft USDA conditional commitment approval for a 25 million loan and anticipates closing this funding soon [24] Q&A Session Summary Question: Thoughts on LCFS price recovery - Management believes the updated LCFS will help fund projects and predicts a potential price increase to $220 for credits by 2027 due to a deficit [36] Question: Risks to future tax credits under the ITC - Concerns were expressed about the timing of the 45Z production tax credit guidance, which may be delayed until after the new administration takes over [41] Question: Future capacity for RNG - Aemetis projects to exceed 550,000 MMBtus in 2025 and aims for 1 million MMBtus in 2026, with plans to accelerate construction of additional dairies [45] Question: Working capital needs for U.S. operations - The ethanol plant operates as a self-funding mechanism, while RNG expansion is expected to have minimal impact on overhead and working capital needs [46] Question: Timeline for India IPO - The timeline for the India IPO is dependent on market conditions, with expectations for acceleration in the process as new leadership is in place [47]