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Angel Oak(AOMR) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
AOMRAngel Oak(AOMR)2025-03-04 15:19

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported a GAAP net loss of 15millionor15 million or 0.65 per common share for Q4 2024, while for the full year, GAAP net income was 28.8millionor28.8 million or 1.17 per diluted common share [17][19] - Distributable earnings for Q4 were 9.9millionor9.9 million or 0.42 per diluted common share, with full-year distributable earnings at 7million[18][20]InterestincomeforQ4was7 million [18][20] - Interest income for Q4 was 31.9 million, marking a 30% improvement compared to Q4 2023, and net interest income was 9.9million,a209.9 million, a 20% improvement [19][20] - GAAP book value per share decreased by 9.8% to 10.17 as of December 31, 2024, down from 11.28asofSeptember30,2024[25]BusinessLineDataandKeyMetricsChangesThecompanycompletedfivesecuritizationsin2024,exceedingthetargetofoneperquarter,withatotalof11.28 as of September 30, 2024 [25] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company completed five securitizations in 2024, exceeding the target of one per quarter, with a total of 855 million in scheduled unpaid principal balance [22][23] - The weighted average coupon of the residential whole loan portfolio increased by 61 basis points to 7.39% by year-end 2024 [21] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The total portfolio weighted average percentage of loans 90 days plus delinquent increased to 2.4% from 1.85% at the end of Q3 2024 [27] - The company noted that the securitization market remains active and receptive with tight spreads, indicating a favorable environment for capital recycling [12][23] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company focuses on long-term earnings accretion, disciplined decision-making, and risk management to create shareholder value [7][8] - The capital deployment strategy is adaptive and flexible, aligning with evolving market dynamics to maximize returns [13] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about the long-term backdrop of the business, despite experiencing a decline in book value due to interest rate volatility [8][11] - The company expects interest income to continue growing through effective portfolio management and securitization execution [21] Other Important Information - The company declared a $0.32 per share common dividend, paid on February 28, 2025 [32] - The company has a small exposure to the California mortgage market, with minimal impact from recent wildfires [30][31] Q&A Session Summary Question: How insulated are the '21 to '23 vintages regarding prepayments? - Management indicated that significant declines in rates would be needed to trigger prepayments, estimating a drop of 150 to 200 basis points [37] Question: Can you discuss the outlook for net interest income (NII) in the next quarter? - Management confirmed a strong pipeline and expected continued growth in NII throughout 2025 [50][51] Question: What are the expectations for delinquencies moving forward? - Management anticipates a return to normalized levels of 2% to 3% for 90-day delinquencies, indicating a healthy credit environment [64] Question: What is the company's stance on repurchasing stock? - Management expressed a preference for building equity over stock buybacks, citing higher returns on incremental capital compared to the current dividend yield [59][60]