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Dine Brands(DIN) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
DINDine Brands(DIN)2025-03-05 22:56

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Dine Brands Global, Inc. generated 106.4millioninadjustedfreecashflowforfiscal2024,anincreasefrom106.4 million in adjusted free cash flow for fiscal 2024, an increase from 103.3 million in the previous year, indicating financial stability [11][53] - Adjusted EBITDA for the full year was 239.8million,downfrom239.8 million, down from 256.4 million in 2023, with Q4 adjusted EBITDA at 50.1millioncomparedto50.1 million compared to 62.2 million in the same quarter last year [12][51] - Total revenues decreased by 0.7% to 204.8millioninQ4,withafullyearrevenueof204.8 million in Q4, with a full-year revenue of 812.3 million, reflecting negative comps and a decrease in rental revenues [49][50] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - IHOP experienced a full-year comp sales decline of 2%, with Q4 comp sales at negative 2.8% [13] - Applebee's comp sales were negative 4.2% for the full year and negative 4.7% in Q4, contrasting with previous growth [13][55] - The company took back 47 Applebee's restaurants in November, which contributed to an increase in company restaurant sales [12][49] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The macroeconomic environment in 2024 significantly impacted consumer spending, particularly among guests with household incomes under 75,000,whorepresentabouttwothirdsofthecustomerbase[14]AverageweeklysalesforApplebeeswere75,000, who represent about two-thirds of the customer base [14] - Average weekly sales for Applebee's were 52.3 thousand, while IHOP's were 37.7 thousand, with off-premise sales contributing significantly to both brands [56] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to enhance guest experience through improved operations, menu enhancements, and dynamic marketing strategies [15][16] - Dine Brands Global plans to remodel 30 Applebee's restaurants under the "Lookin' Good" program and convert five to a dual-brand concept [17][25] - The dual-brand concept is a key part of the development strategy, with positive initial results from the first U.S. dual-brand location in Seguin, Texas [41][43] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management acknowledged that 2024 performance did not meet expectations but expressed confidence in the ability to improve in 2025 through targeted investments and enhanced execution [15][19] - The company is optimistic about international growth potential, particularly in Canada, Mexico, and the Middle East, and plans to expand dual-brand locations [39][40] Other Important Information - The company has initiated a nationwide search for a new leader for Applebee's following the resignation of Tony Moralejo [9][10] - G&A expenses for Q4 were 52.3 million, up from 50.5 million in the same period last year, but full-year G&A expenses decreased to 196.7 million [51] Q&A Session Summary Question: Marketing strategy and underperformance - Management acknowledged that guests are seeking value, particularly all-in meal value, and noted progress from recent promotions [70][72] Question: Total value incidents and Applebee's plans - The total mix for Applebee's was about 27-28%, with plans to expand the everyday value platform targeting singles, pairs, and groups [78][80] Question: Franchisee confidence in turnaround plan - Franchisees remain committed to investing in their brands, with strong cooperation and alignment on plans for 2025 [88][90] Question: IHOP's food cost outlook - IHOP expects low to mid-single-digit inflation primarily driven by egg prices, with no surcharges implemented by franchisees [106][107] Question: Innovation in 2024 and plans for 2025 - Management highlighted successful innovations, including the dual-brand concept and new menu items, with more innovations planned for 2025 [111][115]