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PHX Minerals (PHX) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Total production volumes increased approximately 5% year over year, with royalty volume up 8% for the year [3][9] - EBITDA was down slightly year over year, supported by a traditional hedging program [4] - Natural gas, oil, and NGL sales revenues increased 13% to 8.9millionforthequarter,butdecreased88.9 million for the quarter, but decreased 8% to 33.7 million for the full year compared to 2023 [17] - Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was 5.4million,upfrom5.4 million, up from 4.9 million in the previous quarter, while for the full year it was 21.3millioncomparedto21.3 million compared to 22.7 million in 2023 [23] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Royalty production increased 8% to 8,760 million CFE, with quarterly royalty production remaining flat from the previous quarter [10][11] - Oil represented 11% of production volumes, while NGL represented 9% [11] - Total proved reserves decreased 11% to 63.7 BCFE, with improved royalty reserves decreasing 9% to 52.5 BCFE [12] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Realized natural gas prices for Q4 2024 averaged 2.64perMcf,comparedto2.64 per Mcf, compared to 2.00 in Q3 2024 [18] - Realized oil prices averaged 69.82,down769.82, down 7% from the previous quarter, while NGLs averaged 23.01, up 17% [18] - For the full year 2024, natural gas prices averaged 2.19comparedto2.19 compared to 2.61 in 2023, and oil averaged 74.59comparedto74.59 compared to 76.76 in 2023 [18] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is committed to maintaining a strong conservative balance sheet and has applied proceeds from the sale of non-core minerals to reduce debt [6][7] - The company is evaluating strategic alternatives to unlock value, with a focus on high-quality assets and improving financial position [7][28] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management acknowledged the challenges posed by lower rig counts and reduced industry capex budgets, but expressed optimism about improving natural gas fundamentals [2][3] - The company remains optimistic about prospects for 2025, citing a solid foundation of high-quality assets and a commitment to exploring strategic opportunities [28] Other Important Information - The company sold non-producing minerals for 8million,whichwereoldlegacyassetswithnoproductioncashflow[6]TotaldebtasofDecember31,2024,was8 million, which were old legacy assets with no production cash flow [6] - Total debt as of December 31, 2024, was 29.5 million, with a trailing debt to twelve-month adjusted EBITDA of 1.38 times [25] Q&A Session Summary Question: Insights on the strategic alternatives review process - Management stated that they do not comment on ongoing processes [35] Question: Approach to M&A and ground game leasing during the review - Management confirmed that the business continues to operate as usual, with no changes to their approach [37] Question: Production guidance for 2025 - Management indicated that while they are not providing guidance, trends from the past two years suggest a continuation of current production levels [39]