PotlatchDeltic(PCH) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Total adjusted EBITDA for the first quarter of 2025 was $63 million, an increase of$10 million from $53 million in the fourth quarter of 2024, reflecting improved performance across all business segments [22][3][21] - The Timberlands segment's adjusted EBITDA rose from$34 million in Q4 to $42 million in Q1, driven by higher harvest volumes and increased sawlog prices [23][22] - Wood Products adjusted EBITDA increased from$9 million in Q4 to $12 million in Q1, attributed to slightly higher average lumber prices [25][22] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Timberlands harvested 1.968 million tons in Q1, exceeding plans, with Idaho sawlog prices increasing by 9$23 million in Q1, up from $19 million in Q4, with over 7,000 acres sold at an average price of$3,300 per acre [27][22] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Lumber markets faced tepid demand, with Southern yellow pine prices remaining firm while SPF prices increased due to tariff discussions [5][4] - U.S. housing starts remained stable at nearly 1.4 million units, with single-family homebuilding starts resilient near 1 million units [16][17] - The multifamily homebuilding segment faced challenges due to restrictive financing and oversupply [18] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on natural climate solutions, expanding solar option contracts and exploring lithium development opportunities [12][14] - A balanced capital allocation strategy is maintained, with share repurchases prioritized over timberland acquisitions due to stock trading at a discount to net asset value [15][14] - The company anticipates a favorable long-term outlook despite near-term volatility, with expectations for lumber demand to improve as housing affordability constraints ease [20][21] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted that while the near-term environment is uncertain, long-term fundamentals in the industry remain strong, driven by demographic shifts and housing undersupply [20][21] - The company expects second-quarter total adjusted EBITDA to be lower than Q1 due to seasonally lower harvest volumes and higher forest management costs [33][32] - Management expressed confidence in the Waldo sawmill's contribution to future EBITDA growth, despite current pricing challenges [57][56] Other Important Information - The company has $447 million in liquidity, including$147 million in cash, and plans to refinance $100 million of maturing debt [29][30] - Capital expenditures in Q1 totaled$23 million, with a full-year CapEx forecast of $60 million to$65 million [30][29] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you talk about demand trends in the new IT channel and R&R channel? - Management described the current lumber market as decent, with the South performing better than the North, and noted that prices are higher in the South [36][38] Question: How would you characterize channel inventories? - Management indicated that the industry operates at relatively low inventory levels, with some northern species experiencing inventory hangover from tariff concerns [41][42] Question: What impact did the recent tariff announcements have on order books? - Management stated that there was no significant change in end consumer demand, although some advanced ordering may have occurred [48][50] Question: What is the expected impact of higher Canadian lumber duties? - Management anticipates that some Canadian competitors may absorb costs, while smaller operators may face challenges, potentially leading to mill closures [51][52] Question: Can you provide insights on cedar log prices? - Management noted that cedar prices are driven by regional demand and that customers have been short on cedar, leading to price increases [93] Question: What is the timeline for solar and lithium opportunities? - Management expects that one or two solar deals may close next year, with option periods typically lasting three to five years [83][84] Question: How does the company reconcile increased production with tepid demand? - Management clarified that increased production does not necessarily indicate falling demand, as the overall market is expected to grow modestly [110]