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Applied Optoelectronics(AAOI) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Total revenue for Q1 2025 was 99.9million,morethandoubledyearoveryear,andwasinlinewithguidanceof99.9 million, more than doubled year over year, and was in line with guidance of 94 million to 104million[9][26]NonGAAPgrossmarginwas30.7104 million [9][26] - Non-GAAP gross margin was 30.7%, above the guidance range of 29% to 30.5%, and improved from 28.9% in Q4 2024 and 18.9% in Q1 2024 [29][30] - Non-GAAP net loss for Q1 was 0.9 million or 0.02pershare,comparedtoalossof0.02 per share, compared to a loss of 12 million or 0.31pershareinQ12024[31]BusinessLineDataandKeyMetricsChangesCATVsegmentrevenuewas0.31 per share in Q1 2024 [31] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - CATV segment revenue was 64.5 million, up more than six times year over year and increased 24% sequentially, driven by shipments of 1.8 GHz amplifiers [10][26] - Data center products revenue was 32million,up1132 million, up 11% year over year but down 28% sequentially due to inventory digestion by a major customer [10][26] - Telecom segment revenue was 2.9 million, up 29% year over year but down 17% sequentially [28] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - 60% of revenue came from CATV products, 32% from data center products, and 3% from FTTH, telecom, and other [26] - Demand for certain 100G products surged in Q1, potentially related to tariff concerns, but supply constraints limited production [20][27] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on expanding production capacity for 800G and higher transceivers, with plans to reach approximately 40,000 transceivers per month by mid-2026 [14][15] - The company aims to minimize tariff impacts by assessing supply chain and manufacturing operations, with a commitment to onshore production [17][35] - The company is actively engaging with customers, particularly in the hyperscale data center market, to expand revenue opportunities [19][68] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted strong demand in the CATV market and positive long-term growth trends in both CATV and data center markets [12][13] - Tariffs had no material impact on Q1 financials, and management does not expect significant impact in Q2 based on current information [13] - The company expects Q2 revenue to be between 100millionand100 million and 110 million, with a modest sequential decrease in CATV revenue and an increase in data center revenue [36] Other Important Information - The company ended Q1 with 66.8millionincashandequivalents,downfrom66.8 million in cash and equivalents, down from 79.1 million at the end of Q4 2024 [32] - Total debt, excluding convertible debt, was 46.1million,slightlyupfrom46.1 million, slightly up from 46 million in the previous quarter [32] - The company raised $98 million net under a new at-the-market offering to fund investments in production and R&D [34] Q&A Session Summary Question: Understanding channel inventory for cable TV products - The company has good knowledge of inventory levels through reports from MSOs and channel partners, and there is an intentional inventory buildup due to tariff situations [38][40] Question: Progress with 800G products - The company expects to ramp up production capacity to about 100,000 pieces per month by the end of the year, with a significant revenue contribution anticipated in the second half [44][45] Question: Manufacturing in China - The company is not manufacturing any products with a country of origin in China for tariff purposes, although some operations occur there [46] Question: Retooling to Motorola style amplifiers - The company is shifting production to Motorola style amplifiers, expecting to have significant inventory of both products by June [54][55] Question: Long-term market for 800G - The market for 800G is expected to grow significantly, with the company positioned to capture a substantial share, particularly with major customers like Amazon [57][76] Question: CapEx needs and funding - The company has completed a significant ATM offering and is exploring other funding options, but remains confident in achieving profitability this year [60][61]