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Macerich(MAC) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript
MACMacerich(MAC)2025-05-12 18:00

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - FFO excluding certain expenses was approximately 87millionor87 million or 0.33 per share for Q1 2025, compared to approximately 75millionor75 million or 0.33 per share for Q1 2024, driven by higher leasing revenues [31][32] - Same center NOI, excluding lease termination income, increased by 0.9% year-over-year, while excluding Eddy assets, it increased by 2.4% [33] - Net debt to EBITDA at the end of Q1 was 7.9 times, nearly a full turn lower than at the outset of the path forward plan [35] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q1 2025, the company signed 2.6 million square feet of leases, including 2.3 million square feet of renewals, more than double the leases signed in Q1 2024 [11][21] - Trailing twelve-month leasing spreads were 10.9%, up from 8.8% last quarter, marking 14 consecutive quarters of positive leasing spreads [20] - The leasing speedometer indicated a completion percentage of 60% for new deals, up from 39% last quarter [13] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Portfolio sales at the end of Q1 were 837persquarefoot,flatcomparedtoQ42024,but837 per square foot, flat compared to Q4 2024, but 928 per square foot when excluding Eddy properties, which is up 13fromthelastquarter[19]Trafficfortheyearincreasedby213 from the last quarter [19] - Traffic for the year increased by 2% compared to the same period in 2024 [19] - Occupancy in Q1 was 92.6%, down from 94.1% in Q4 2024, primarily due to a decrease in temporary holiday stores [19] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on executing its path forward plan, which aims to simplify the business, improve operational performance, and reduce leverage [5][7] - The leasing dashboard, referred to as the leasing speedometer, has been implemented to drive leasing and capital allocation decisions [8] - The company anticipates reaching a mid-2026 inflection point, indicating substantial completion of its plan [6][10] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the leasing progress and the overall execution of the path forward plan, stating that they are ahead of schedule [5][15] - Minimal impact from tariffs has been observed, with retailers continuing to honor their leases [14][42] - The company expects same store NOI growth in the 3% to 4% range for 2026, with significantly higher growth anticipated in 2027 and 2028 [61] Other Important Information - The company has made substantial progress on asset sales, with total dispositions reaching approximately 1.1 billion, and has identified additional assets totaling up to 400 million for sale or giveback [38][39] - The redevelopment and expansion of Green Acres is set to begin, addressing 370,000 square feet of vacant space [29] Q&A Session Summary Question: Potential upside on leasing due to recent news - Management noted minimal pullback from tenants regarding leasing, indicating strong retailer sentiment and confidence in the leasing metrics [41][42] Question: Clarification on the SNO pipeline - The 80 million SNO pipeline is incremental over revenue generated from 2024, with $25 million expected to be realized in 2025 [44] Question: Spending on leases and guidance reinstatement - Current spending on leases is slightly more than initially envisioned, with expectations for major uplifts in FFO and EBITDA in 2027 and 2028 [47][48] Question: Success of new deals and organizational structure - The consolidation of leasing teams has led to increased leasing activity, with a strong pipeline of new deals and a focus on high-quality spaces [52][53] Question: Same store NOI growth expectations - Management expects same store NOI growth of 3% to 4% in 2026, with higher growth anticipated in subsequent years [61] Question: Clarification on renewal leasing spread statistics - The renewal spread statistics include temporary spaces and are reflective of the exact same space, leading to differences in reported metrics [85][86] Question: Impact of tariffs on asset sales - Management indicated that tariffs have not significantly impacted asset sales, with positive demand and pricing for outparcels and other assets [110][111]