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Simon Property(SPG) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Real estate FFO was 2.95pershareinQ12025,comparedto2.95 per share in Q1 2025, compared to 2.91 in the prior year, indicating a slight increase [7] - Domestic NOI increased by 3.4% year over year, while portfolio NOI, including international properties at constant currency, grew by 3.6% for the quarter [9] - First quarter funds from operation were 1billionor1 billion or 2.67 per share, down from 1.33billionor1.33 billion or 3.56 per share last year, primarily due to prior year gains from asset sales [9][10] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company signed 1,300 leases for over 5.1 million square feet in the quarter, with approximately 25% being new deals [8] - Mall and premium outlet occupancy at the end of the quarter was 95.9%, an increase of 40 basis points year over year, while mills occupancy was 98.4%, up 70 basis points [8] - Average base minimum rents for malls and outlets increased by 2.4% year over year, with mills increasing by 3.9% [9] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Retailer sales per square foot for the quarter was 7.33,withoccupancycostsat13.17.33, with occupancy costs at 13.1% [9] - Traffic through the quarter was slightly down, but year-to-date through April, it was up, indicating resilience in consumer behavior [33] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company completed the acquisition of luxury outlet malls in Italy and opened a new outlet in Jakarta, Indonesia, enhancing its retail real estate platform [5] - Development projects underway totaled a net cost of 944 million with a blended yield of 9%, with expectations to begin construction on additional projects soon [11] - The company announced a dividend of 2.1pershareforQ2,ayearoveryearincreaseof52.1 per share for Q2, a year-over-year increase of 5% [12] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about the current economic environment, noting strong demand for retail space despite macroeconomic uncertainties [22] - The company reaffirmed its full-year 2025 real estate FFO guidance range of 12.4 to 12.65pershare,reflectingcautiousoptimismamidtariffuncertainties[13]Managementhighlightedthatwhilesaleswererelativelyflat,theyexpecttolandwithinoriginalguidanceduetoinventorylevelspotentiallybeingaffectedbytariffs[21]OtherImportantInformationThecompanycompleted12securedloantransactionstotalingapproximately12.65 per share, reflecting cautious optimism amid tariff uncertainties [13] - Management highlighted that while sales were relatively flat, they expect to land within original guidance due to inventory levels potentially being affected by tariffs [21] Other Important Information - The company completed 12 secured loan transactions totaling approximately 2.6 billion, with a weighted average interest rate of 5.73% [12] - The company is maintaining a cautious approach to capital allocation, with a focus on long-term decisions amid macroeconomic uncertainty [78] Q&A Session Summary Question: Impact of tariffs on leasing - Management noted that only one European retailer was affected by tariffs, and overall demand remains strong [17][22] Question: Retailers' inventory levels and sales trends - Management indicated that retailers have about a month to decide on inventory from China, with some reducing exposure to Chinese goods [35][36] Question: Changes in approach to tenant negotiations - Management stated that it is business as usual, with strong demand and constrained supply, despite some retailers facing challenges [41] Question: Performance of Forever 21 spaces - Over half of the Forever 21 spaces have been leased, with expectations to double the rent over the next two years [48][50] Question: Consumer sentiment and sales outlook - Management believes consumer sentiment is currently stable, but there is caution regarding tourism and its impact on sales [58][59] Question: OPI performance and tariff impacts - OPI showed improvement, with expectations for positive EBITDA despite tariff uncertainties [72] Question: Macroeconomic uncertainty and capital plans - Management confirmed a cautious approach to capital plans, with ongoing development projects but careful consideration of costs [78][80] Question: Trends in luxury tenants - Luxury tenants are performing well, with no significant pullback in leasing demand noted [120]