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Ichor (ICHR) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript
ICHRIchor (ICHR)2025-05-05 21:32

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - First quarter revenues were 244.5million,up5244.5 million, up 5% sequentially from Q4 and 21% year-over-year [5][20] - Gross margin for Q1 was 12.4%, an increase of 40 basis points from Q4 but below the forecast of 14.5% [20] - Operating income for Q1 was 6.6 million, with net interest expense at 1.6millionandnonGAAPnetincometaxexpenseat1.6 million and non-GAAP net income tax expense at 600,000 [20] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company acknowledged challenges in transitioning from externally sourced products to internally manufactured products, impacting gross margins [6][20] - A new contract in the commercial space market led to higher costs and revenue push-outs due to redesign requirements [9] - The decision to exit the refurbishment business in Scotland had a slight negative impact on both revenue and gross margin [9] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The overall customer demand environment has remained consistent, with expectations for modest growth in wafer fab equipment (WFE) for 2025 [5] - Specific markets such as silicon carbide applications have weakened, affecting OEM customers differently [15] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to increase the use of proprietary, internally sourced components to drive gross margin expansion [10][17] - By the end of 2025, the company expects to have all four major customers qualified on all three major product families [12] - Planned capital expenditures for 2025 are expected to be around 4% of revenue, higher than the historical average of 2% [21] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the strategy despite recent challenges, indicating that improvements in gross margins are expected as internal supply ramps up [18] - The company anticipates Q2 revenues between 225millionand225 million and 245 million, reflecting a slight decrease in visibility compared to previous guidance [15][22] - Management noted that geopolitical uncertainties and tariff impacts could affect future demand but did not foresee significant demand erosion [91] Other Important Information - The company is working to mitigate the impact of tariffs on gross margins and is collaborating with customers to manage costs [40][41] - The exit from the refurbishment business in Scotland was primarily due to declining demand, with an estimated annual revenue loss of around $10 million [99] Q&A Session Summary Question: Change in revenue outlook for the year - Management indicated that the softer outlook is primarily due to a slowdown in the lithography business and challenges in the non-semi business [26][28] Question: Execution on gross margin internalization - Management estimated that they achieved about 75% to 80% of their internal sourcing goals in Q1, with ongoing improvements expected [30][32] Question: Impact of tariffs on customers - Management noted that while some customers are pushing costs down, the company is working collaboratively to manage tariff impacts [40][41] Question: Confidence in second half growth - Management expressed confidence in continued strength in DRAM and NAND investments, with expectations for growth in the second half [46][91] Question: Disconnect with largest customer's guidance - Management clarified that they do not see significant disconnects in outlooks, with expectations for semi business to strengthen in the second half [54] Question: Clarification on severance costs - The majority of severance costs were related to exiting the Scotland operation, with some smaller reductions also accounted for [65]