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Performant Financial (PFMT) - 2024 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q3 2024, total company revenues were 31.5million,withhealthcarerevenuesat31.5 million, with healthcare revenues at 30.3 million, reflecting year-over-year growth of 5% and 6% respectively [28] - Adjusted EBITDA for Q3 was positive at 2million,approximatelyflatcomparedtotheprioryear[38]YeartodateadjustedEBITDAcomparisonshowedanincreaseofroughly2 million, approximately flat compared to the prior year [38] - Year-to-date adjusted EBITDA comparison showed an increase of roughly 2.5 million ahead of the prior year [38] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Healthcare revenue grew 6% year-over-year, with claims-based business revenues of 14.2million,markingover3014.2 million, marking over 30% growth in both Q3 and year-to-date [31][32] - Eligibility revenues for Q3 were 16.1 million, a decrease of roughly 12% year-over-year, attributed to a difficult comparison year [33] - Customer care/outsourced services revenue accounted for 1.2million,adeclinefromthepreviousyear,asthecompanyadaptstoreducedservicesinthismarket[29]MarketDataandKeyMetricsChangesThecompanyhasimplemented32programsyeartodate,expectedtodeliver1.2 million, a decline from the previous year, as the company adapts to reduced services in this market [29] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company has implemented 32 programs year-to-date, expected to deliver 13 million to 14millioninannualizedrevenueatsteadystate[9][35]TheStateMedicaidmarketpresentsa14 million in annualized revenue at steady state [9][35] - The State Medicaid market presents a 300 million to $500 million annual revenue opportunity, with a significant contract win in New York [15][18] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to focus solely on the healthcare payment integrity market, believing it offers the most effective path to long-term profitability and sustained growth [25] - The next phase of organizational transformation is centered around scaling operations, supported by technology and a data-driven approach [21][22] - The company is strategically reducing services within the customer care line of business to concentrate on healthcare payment integrity [24] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in navigating industry challenges, including security breaches and election-related conservatism, while maintaining guidance for 2024 healthcare revenues [27][43] - The company anticipates that the end of the election cycle will alleviate some conservatism seen in client decision-making [66] Other Important Information - The company has successfully integrated assets from a recent acquisition into its technology stack, enhancing its capabilities [22] - The New York State RAC contract win is expected to generate double-digit millions in annual revenues at steady state, with a contract start anticipated in early Q2 2025 [39] Q&A Session Summary Question: Expectations on operationalizing the New York Medicaid contract - Management anticipates a typical ramp cycle of two to three years to reach steady state, with potential for compression depending on client motivation [46] Question: Margin expectations for the new state business - Margins are expected to be similar to existing federal and commercial business, with government contracts typically yielding better fee rates [50] Question: Sales cycle delays and their impact - Delays were noted following a data breach, leading to more cautious decision-making among payers, but management views this as temporary [56][57] Question: Size differential between RAC Regions 3 and 4 - RAC Region 4 is a 16-state region including California, while Region 3 encompasses eight states, with Region 4 historically being one of the largest [60] Question: Market share opportunities with large commercial payers - The company has a small market share with large payers but has demonstrated the ability to win additional business through existing relationships [63][65] Question: Impact of integrated technology on EBITDA - Margin expansion from the integration of RecordsOne is expected to be seen in 2025, with more significant impacts anticipated in 2026 and 2027 [70]